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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:27:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:At what range are you supposed to actually fight against these things? They're good out to 100m. They fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. CQC is just as if not even more dangerous due to the high ROF, high alpha, and super tight hipfire spread. You never have to reload them. They practically never overheat.
Where are these things supposed to be bad again?
Here I am supposed to be the mid to short range champ in my minmatar assault, combat rifle, and smg and I can't out range them. I can't fight them in CQC. I can't out run them. I can't out flank them. I pretty much have to rely on them being slow or not good players.
QQ MOAR.
Read the first 6-7 posts and learn something.
LEt me tell you, if the SCR is so op how come is the LEAST used Rifle now?... Yeah, didnt think so.
The mere fact it has a horrible OVERHEAT mechanic and 80% to armor (every other rifle has at MOST a 10% penalty on shield/armor) Makes them on par,if not UNDERPOWERED with the other rifles.
Just ....shush...
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:42:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
Hey come on now, lets have a civil discussion about this. I'm really liking the way the Rifle balance is in 1.7 I'm glad all the racial rifles are out now.
I've died by a GEK, SB-39 AND RS-10 all in the same game. Its pretty cool.
Im trying,but people sayign the SCR is ''OP'' is PURE saltiness. No one is even using them anymore because ofAuto versions ovf every other rifle and everybody is my butt at 80+mts with rail rifles and in CQ with A.CR/CR and somehow , the whine is still with the SCR...
My patience has its limits ...
And its not like if you NERF the SCR i cant just pick a RR and do equally good or better...Yesterday testing the damn weapons went 30-4 with a Dragonfly C-1 BPO and a basic RR LOL..
Yes , rifles feel pretty balanced now. The QQ against the SCR is uncalled for.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:45:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D
NO. THE ACR is a little like the SCR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.
If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage.
Ok, you can have an extended clip if i can remove the SCR overheat mechanic XD See? We both LOLed there....
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:54:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :)
Im done proving facts.the QQ never ends,and will never end... Im defending the weapon. Im not ashamed of saying it. In fact, im defending EVERY rifle.,not only the SCR.
You see , thats the thing? I dont fwant further arguments and discussions.
''New , to the post i quoted, well i think amarr Assaults need a 10% Heat buildup reduction per level instead of 5%''
see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:36:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The full auto CR is definitely a FAMAS in nature.
Can i haz extended clip? :D NO.THE ACR is a little like the CR but for CQ. Its a beast 1 on 1 weapon.If you extend their clip,you take away their ONLY disadvantage. In regards to your reply of my previous quote; Yes I understand, I am a dedicated ScR user as well and I know what you mean, but be wary of how you present your opinions about the weapon because people will be more inclined to think that you are defending the weapon instead of providing facts that could be used to further the argument and discussion; which you are. Now to the post you quoted, I think they should get an extended clip by way of Minmatar Assault Suit bonus; refer to one of my previous posts above ^ regarding this issue :) Im done proving facts.the QQ never ends,and will never end... Im defending the weapon. Im not ashamed of saying it.In fact, im defending EVERY rifle.,not only the SCR. You see , thats the thing? I dont fwant further arguments and discussions. ''New , to the post i quoted, well i think amarr Assaults need a 10% Heat buildup reduction per level instead of 5%'' see? thats how it sounds a clip increase advantage to MINS on the ACR. I mean PLEASE the A.CR is already as powerful as it gets? If you cant get 2 kills with one clip EASILY you are doing it wrong. There is QQ about everything though my friend, and you and I both know that the ScR is and has been perfect ever since its inclusion to the game. All I'm saying is if you present your arguments unbiasedly and inoffensively you have a better chance of having your reader actually understand what you are saying, thats all. On that note (Warning: Argument incoming :D) I disagree, the ScR is already an amazing weapon (albeit punishes trigger spammers) even without the Assault ak.0 and so is the CR but I want all the assault suits to have a similar bonus that makes their respective faction's weapons that much more effective, like the Assault ak.0 does. Everyone knows to fear a good Assault ak.0 brandishing a ScR. I want people to fear an Assault mk.0 Brandishing a CR and an Assault ck.0 brandishing a RR And for completeness sake, everyone fears the Duvolle; especially a Assault gk.0 since their bonus allows them to fit better modules while brandishing an already beastly weapon
Since i will keep my bad attitude for now, i'll stop posting then. With you and lea is enough to bring some light to the thread....
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:46:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Since i will keep my bad attitude for now, i'll stop posting then. With you and lea is enough to bring some light to the thread.... We can start another thread if you wish and discuss for discussions sake? But we've gone on tangent enough, Cyrius to refer back to the OP, what are your thoughts after listening to some of the dedicated Scrambler Rifle users' opinions?
I dont know. My opinion is pretty much all in here already:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130608&find=unread
Give it a quick read, its real short.
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